"NKato" (NKato)
01/28/2019 at 15:08 • Filed to: None
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"NKato" (NKato)
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That is weird. When I took my drivers exam for the first time, I failed because I was unfamiliar with the neighborhood and was speeding in a school zone as a result. Second exam the next week went smoothly. News link after the jump.
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RPM esq.
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:18 |
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When I moved to California for college and learned that none of my friends from there had to learn to parallel park or back around a corner to pass the driving test, I was shocked. Later, I lived in Arizona...where a drivers license is easy to get and then doesn’t expire until your 65th birthday. I’m not shocked anymore.
Just Jeepin'
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:20 |
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Indiana’s somewhere in the middle. Typical for us, just so-so.
I wonder what the ramifications of requiring a re-test every 15-20 years would be.
Mid Engine
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:33 |
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There are 60 accidents in the Seattle area daily; t his occurs because people don’ t have a fucking clue how to drive. It’s surreal, my guess is folks transfer in from a foreign country so they don’t have to take any tests. There’s no other explanation for the incredibly poor driving skills on display.
someassemblyrequired
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:43 |
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It used to be (until pretty recently) that Washington made you retake the on-road driving test even if you had a license from another jurisdiction
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:44 |
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A girl in my DE class backed into the testers car, ran 3 red lights, failed parallel parking, then parked on the curb upon returning to the DMV.
She got her license that day....
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> Mid Engine
01/28/2019 at 15:44 |
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People are stupid is the best explanation.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> Just Jeepin'
01/28/2019 at 15:45 |
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Every 5 yrs would be great honestly.
BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:47 |
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My driving test in PA was done in a parking lot, never exceeding 10mph . Soooo
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NKato
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
01/28/2019 at 15:48 |
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... did you file a complaint?
Honeybunchesofgoats
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:49 |
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Their rankings seem a bit off and pretty lazily researched. For one, cost doesn’t really make sense when factoring in difficulty.
Also , they note that NJ doesn’t require a learner’s permit, and that’s not true. If you’re 16, you have to get a “ learner’s permit,” but not if you’re 17. Regardless, if you’re under 21, you received a graduated license that requires a licensed passenger at all times for six months before you can take a road test , and even if you’re over 21 when first licensed, you still need a licensed passenger to supervise you for three months before you can take the test .
Also, all of that is in addition to one year of unsupervised probation that restricts how late/early you can operate a vehicle and how many passengers you can have .
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:50 |
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No point. If you have a pulse in WI you can get a license.
The people who fail on the first try are the ones that really scare me, I mean seriously, how bad do you have to be to fail?!?!
fintail
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 15:50 |
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This is hilariously unbelievable , based on what I see on the roads every day. I have a suspicion that licenses can be bought now that so much of the process is privatized.
I passed with flying colors on my first try, but that was more than 25 years ago now. Motorcycle endorsement took more than one (performance anxiety), but it wasn’t bad after that - and that one is much more involved than the 4 wheel license.
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fintail
> Mid Engine
01/28/2019 at 15:51 |
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I see you’ve visited Bellevue.
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Just Jeepin'
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
01/28/2019 at 15:54 |
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I’d like that, but I imagine that’d be judged too expensive by most states.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> Just Jeepin'
01/28/2019 at 15:57 |
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I’d have no problem paying a fee each year to re-take the test, assuming it would get a lot of terrible drivers off the road.
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Just Jeepin'
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
01/28/2019 at 16:03 |
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The resources required to test every adult in the state that frequently would be crazy, I suspect. And the fees would be onerous for most in poverty, the ones who most depend on having any transportation they can manage, plus the problems of people in rural areas...
As much as I’d like it, the better solution seems to be to fix public transit. That, sadly, is the actual (crack) pipe dream in this discussion.
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
01/28/2019 at 16:26 |
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Guy before me failed because he couldn't park a mini Cooper. That seemed pretty justified considering I nailed the parallel parking attempt on the second try....in a Chevrolet avalanche. That and you can just pick up a mini to park it if it's too hard to drive in.
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 16:29 |
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Washington is actually easy to get a license in, and apparently they don’t need an SSN to do so. All the illegal immigrants here go to WA to get a license (which happens to have a much longer expiration date than other states). They come into the country legally and get the license, and then they have v alid ID for the next ten years after their v isa expires.
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If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> Just Jeepin'
01/28/2019 at 16:30 |
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A mandatory retest after age 60, then.
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NKato
> fintail
01/28/2019 at 17:51 |
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I stay away from King County by large, because it's shit. The drivers too.
facw
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 18:49 |
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My test in NY was super easy. It was on the road, which is something, but it meant very easy scenarios, parallel parking in a space that’s constrained (probably good, I’d be pissed off if I lived near the DMV and was constantly being hit by incompetent teens.) I’d guess around 20% of my classmates still managed to fail the first time through, mostly hitting the curb while parking, but people also failed for running stop signs and for driving on the shoulder to make a right on red rather than waiting for the traffic going straight to clear out (that was customary at that intersection, but obviously not a good thing to do on your test).
When I was kid, we had au pairs, and my parents made them get licenses. One of them (who was licensed in Germany) took seven tries to get hers between written and driving failures.
wafflesnfalafel
> Mid Engine
01/28/2019 at 19:17 |
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W e have a bunch of things working against us... 1) a sizable percentage of the population are new to the area or new to the country - not bad people but just have not been driving that long, 2) LOTS of traffic, 3) lots of new money so folks are in vehicles that are faster than they can handle given their limited experience , 4) Lots of wet pavement, 5) geography that is simply difficult and expensive to engineer around so our road capacity is limited, 6) something I’ll call “a culture of excessive politeness” - folks are hesitant to make required decisions while driving which means more problems merging, more accidents , more incidents that hold up traffic and cause hwy slowdowns, 7) significant percentage of the driving population feels that even though you have all the previous issues in play, they can successfully pilot a 2 ton vehicle while looking down at their cell phone.
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fintail
> NKato
01/28/2019 at 22:04 |
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To be fair, so is anywhere else with this population density and lack of transit infrastructure. Driving here sucks, but I will take it over Atlanta, Detroit, most places in Florida or NY-Philly-Boston metro etc. To get away from it, you have to move away from many employment centers.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Just Jeepin'
01/28/2019 at 23:14 |
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my problem with I ndia na is that folks are too nice. “you go , no you go, no you go”.
Also what goes for traffic is a medium inconvenience .
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Just Jeepin'
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
01/28/2019 at 23:34 |
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Yeah, real traffic is rare here. I think I’ve been completely stopped to the point of being able to get out of my car on the interstate twice in my life, and only one of them was here despite living here practically all of it.
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> Just Jeepin'
01/29/2019 at 00:12 |
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traffic is like moving a mile in an hour.
funny story, I was traveling for work, my co-worker and i leave the hotel, she stops for coffee. Shes from an east coast city, she sees a 20 ft gap. squeezes in, hops out and goes inside. a couple minutes later this woman walks out, looks at her car. looks at our rental, walks back to her car. now she had 5+ feet behind her.
She then sits in her car, till my coworker comes out, a dnves away.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
01/29/2019 at 07:04 |
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Honestly, I have more issue with middle age people around here than old people. Old people may drive slower, but they generally drive well, it’s the middle age people who can’t drive if their life depended on it.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
01/29/2019 at 07:16 |
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I took my test in my dad’s truck at the time ( this is not his, but looked exactly like it ) :
It was the only vehicle in the driveway that had a functional parking brake.
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If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
01/29/2019 at 08:50 |
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If you think elderly drivers aren't infuriating, you clearly haven't lived in a town that's 60% retirees.
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
01/29/2019 at 10:00 |
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Eh, I prefer slow and predictable over too fast, buried in a phone, and dangerous.
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Mid Engine
> wafflesnfalafel
01/29/2019 at 11:47 |
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Sunny day, but here we go again:
Double the normal travel time due to multiple accidents
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wafflesnfalafel
> Mid Engine
01/29/2019 at 21:23 |
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S bound 405 was a POS all day....
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Mid Engine
> someassemblyrequired
01/30/2019 at 12:27 |
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I moved to WA from Oregon, didn’t have to take any sort of test to get my license.
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someassemblyrequired
> Mid Engine
01/30/2019 at 12:43 |
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I had an Ontario license, had to do the full road test. This was early aughties. Many of my co-workers had moved from Michigan and had to do the same (though they got rid of that requirement for other states at some point in the 90s).
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Mid Engine
> someassemblyrequired
01/30/2019 at 13:22 |
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I had a Quebec license, moved to Oregon in 2010 and had to take a written test, no actual driving required.
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someassemblyrequired
> Mid Engine
01/30/2019 at 13:44 |
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Meh guess I should have stopped at the Oregon DMV first